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the president just won this historic re-election, how can he walk back now after he won re-election from this position? >> you know, i think that he's got the wind at his back. the american people want him to stand up for these essential programs. now, look, american people do want to see cost containment. we can do that in ways that doesn't result in cuts to beneficiaries. >> we'll have to take a break. >>> right now, lot more roundtable ahead. what's ahead for susan rice? mitt romney's team takes on the critics and what really happened when the rivals had lunch. >>> both men acted graciously, after lunch, mitt romney extend a return invitation to the president to visit him and his money at the cayman island. >> it's a nice gesture for the president considering that he hasn't let joe biden have lunch with him even once. that he hasn't let joe biden have lunch with him even once. >>> as you heard, we have lots more to talk about with our roundtable right after this from our abc stations. >> but, the problem with controlling costs you can only do that to some degree. every single year we
the president just won this historic re-election, how can he walk back now after he won re-election from this position? >> you know, i think that he's got the wind at his back. the american people want him to stand up for these essential programs. now, look, american people do want to see cost containment. we can do that in ways that doesn't result in cuts to beneficiaries. >> we'll have to take a break. >>> right now, lot more roundtable ahead. what's ahead for susan rice?...
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this was a status quo election. the president had a great re-election and the republicans held the house and democrats the senate. they have to sit down and do negotiate. it's not boehner versus geithner. it's can the house republicans buy a plan that they cancel to their members. and will the senate go along and if so will the president sign it. until you get in a room and discuss the elements you get people talking at each other with some absurdity. we are talking about $85 billion a year in added revenue over a ten-year period. we are spending over a trillion dollars in debt every year and not putting anything into it. the republicans have been down the road before where they have been promised three for one, and it never happens. i think they are beginning to realize until it's actually on the table and signed off on by all sides they aren't going to buy into it. >> senator, did the president in this offer with so little in spending cuts and tax reform, the debt limit, did he overplay his hand or is he being rea
this was a status quo election. the president had a great re-election and the republicans held the house and democrats the senate. they have to sit down and do negotiate. it's not boehner versus geithner. it's can the house republicans buy a plan that they cancel to their members. and will the senate go along and if so will the president sign it. until you get in a room and discuss the elements you get people talking at each other with some absurdity. we are talking about $85 billion a year in...
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. >> is it fair to go to republicans, many of whom were re-elected just like the president was re-elected in their own districts and say, look, we're going to get specific when it comes to the tax increases we want, but we'll be vague when it comes to stuff that's hard for our side, which is medicare. >> that's a misperception. we propossessed $600 billion in savings. people can take a careful look at them. what we haven't seen from the republicans is a plan to raise rates and revenues. they said they are prepared to raise revenues. but they haven't said how, how much, or who should pay, and haven't proposed what they need on the spending side. we can't figure out what they need. they have to tell us. and then we have to look at it and see if it makes sense for the american people. >> when you look at the economy overall, growth at 2.7% last quarter. how does the economy get out of this slump? what is our economy doing well right now? what are we not doing as well as a country to deal with our economy? >> good question. the economy now is actually looking quite resilient. if you look at w
. >> is it fair to go to republicans, many of whom were re-elected just like the president was re-elected in their own districts and say, look, we're going to get specific when it comes to the tax increases we want, but we'll be vague when it comes to stuff that's hard for our side, which is medicare. >> that's a misperception. we propossessed $600 billion in savings. people can take a careful look at them. what we haven't seen from the republicans is a plan to raise rates and...
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you know we have seven weeks between election day and the end of the year. three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> reporter: here is what has the speaker flabbergasted. the white house would like to raise tax rates on top earners to where they were in the clinton administration, 39.6%. they would also like to raise $1.6 trillion with new taxes over the next decade, while cutting about $400 billion through entitlement reform. although, those cuts are not specific and not guaranteed. but the treasury secretary says the administration's plan is fiscally responsible and would prevent taxes from going up on 98% of americans. >> we think that is a very good set of proposals. we think it's good for the economy. if they have different suggestions they want to go further in some areas, then they should lay odds with us. >> reporter: secretary geithner said he cannot promise we will not go over the fiscal cliff and whether or not we go over it depends -- is a decision, rather, that lay in the hands of republicans that don't want to increase tax ra
you know we have seven weeks between election day and the end of the year. three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> reporter: here is what has the speaker flabbergasted. the white house would like to raise tax rates on top earners to where they were in the clinton administration, 39.6%. they would also like to raise $1.6 trillion with new taxes over the next decade, while cutting about $400 billion through entitlement reform. although, those cuts are not specific and...
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he won the election. and he told the american people we were going to raise the rates on the top income earners. now that is what he is trying to do. i think there is some give here. i don't think it has to go up to 39.6. right now it's 35. maybe it goes up a point or two. listen, republicans need time to sort through all of this. there will be a short-term agreement. there will be a down payment with some increased taxes. some increased budget cuts. then there will be a framework for next year. i think they will reach a deal next year. i don't think it's easy. but listen, this is all what politics is about. no one gets everything. you have a negotiation. that is what is going on now. negotiation. >> eric: when you say you think there are increaseded taxes or like increased revenues instead of the increased taxes like republicans want? >> here is what is at stake. economy is on the brink potentially of going to recession. that will have the worst impact on the deficit that anything will. we got to make su
he won the election. and he told the american people we were going to raise the rates on the top income earners. now that is what he is trying to do. i think there is some give here. i don't think it has to go up to 39.6. right now it's 35. maybe it goes up a point or two. listen, republicans need time to sort through all of this. there will be a short-term agreement. there will be a down payment with some increased taxes. some increased budget cuts. then there will be a framework for next...
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well some of us knew better than you can there's no messiah going to get elected by this system and deliver hope and change we can believe in so how will the occupy movement that has wisely stayed away from promoting political parties or individual politicians navigate the minefield of the potentially co-opting force that is the presidential election cycle now this year is just going to be nuts we've never seen this much money spent on a political process in the history of the world. and this comes at a time for a movement that is determinately to. this mad influx of money and politics so it's going to be a really scary contrast and the challenge of this movement is to create a counter narrative is to show that the justice of its cause is more interesting than anything these candidates can put on television i mentioned at the beginning that this movie is an invitation for you to join the arctic. but there are no membership dues no papers to cite all that is required is the willingness to see the world as it is and decide that you are going to be part of the solution occupy is less of an org
well some of us knew better than you can there's no messiah going to get elected by this system and deliver hope and change we can believe in so how will the occupy movement that has wisely stayed away from promoting political parties or individual politicians navigate the minefield of the potentially co-opting force that is the presidential election cycle now this year is just going to be nuts we've never seen this much money spent on a political process in the history of the world. and this...
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we're certainly not wrecking the arm to your membership going up from fifty two thousand when i got elected. the now we knew you have doubled. over fifty percent in ten years and certainly we've achieved on the best pyrolysis. across the bridge in this great i mean we go in one world. well that's the reason you join the union because that work maybe you tomorrow and you expect your union support you if you has been dismissed so i mean literally we ain't got no power toss the workers at the pile in the spring for the ballot in the great hall using their indoctrination if so. what we do in the di is make it quite clear we are all trying to try and persuade the poles that crazy. we want world money and. we certainly don't live from the moment what we call want to go to die. we would love to be ram and saw in everything. but once the employer takes their position and that position is not acceptable to our membership members then we can remember the option for it if you don't fight then you're the put up with the boss resign you do want to fight he got you also when you weighed in on the floor i
we're certainly not wrecking the arm to your membership going up from fifty two thousand when i got elected. the now we knew you have doubled. over fifty percent in ten years and certainly we've achieved on the best pyrolysis. across the bridge in this great i mean we go in one world. well that's the reason you join the union because that work maybe you tomorrow and you expect your union support you if you has been dismissed so i mean literally we ain't got no power toss the workers at the pile...
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i felt the same way about election. i know, four years ago i spoke to probably 1,000 i was a vice president nominee hundreds of small business people. i would say normally you think of small business people being overwhelmingly conservative. four years ago half the people i spoke to who owned small business said i'm willing to give obama a chance. i made a prediction that obama would win the election. he it. four years later, if i at least 1,000 small business people in constant contact with me, not one of them is supporting obama. not one, i have yet to find a small business person in the united states of america who thinks obama is doing a good job. i'm predicting and have for the last month that romney land landslide. i'm one of the few people. and i think it will be the same reason how can any human being with a brain walk to the voting booth on november 6th and not asking the following question. number one, am i better off four years ago. number two, could we take chance on four more years of this guy, barack obama
i felt the same way about election. i know, four years ago i spoke to probably 1,000 i was a vice president nominee hundreds of small business people. i would say normally you think of small business people being overwhelmingly conservative. four years ago half the people i spoke to who owned small business said i'm willing to give obama a chance. i made a prediction that obama would win the election. he it. four years later, if i at least 1,000 small business people in constant contact with...
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in in order to do that we have made elections and with a revolution and with elections to choose someone to the present us and turned out that this guy is also a tyrant himself however morsi claims his new powers are only temporary he nor any of the b.b.q. in the world who closely near you will tell you it is a temporary thing it is full immersion see it told us the serious the same thing sixty years of war and the president obama and we stayed under emergency law for seventy years opponents say egypt's new constitution is too islamist and could set the country on the road to religious dictatorship but some sections of society are keen to show their support for morsi and their scorn for judges who would block the constitution and i'm here to support the president morsi films all pushing but if you for them is open for them to the constitutional court. most of us knows that since it is the morsi is that they got elected by the people when it was. the fight for the failure of the rifts in society are undeniable and perhaps more even the north or a tarion ism is fair is that chaos will tear
in in order to do that we have made elections and with a revolution and with elections to choose someone to the present us and turned out that this guy is also a tyrant himself however morsi claims his new powers are only temporary he nor any of the b.b.q. in the world who closely near you will tell you it is a temporary thing it is full immersion see it told us the serious the same thing sixty years of war and the president obama and we stayed under emergency law for seventy years opponents...
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there may be a time we're ready to do it. >> reporter: those elected and those deneed will be announced january 9. >> jarvis: coming up, she's a rapper in afghanistan. and a target for the taliban. >> jarvis: stage performances by women are definitely not appreciated in afghanistan where the group human rights watch said last week that advances for women are at risk as the draw-down of international troops continues. kelly cobiella has the story of one young woman who supports her family by challenging social convention at great personal risk. >> reporter: by day, in her family's modest mud home, sosan firooz is a typical young afghan woman, but by night, this 23-year-old is busy making history as afghanistan's first female rapper performing in front of men in western clothes, without a head scarf. in this conservative country, it's not just unusual. it's revolutionary. do you think you're a rebel? >> ( translated ): everyone wants to be unique to do something no one else has done before." her song isn't about broken heart or flashy cars. it's about the painful years she and her family
there may be a time we're ready to do it. >> reporter: those elected and those deneed will be announced january 9. >> jarvis: coming up, she's a rapper in afghanistan. and a target for the taliban. >> jarvis: stage performances by women are definitely not appreciated in afghanistan where the group human rights watch said last week that advances for women are at risk as the draw-down of international troops continues. kelly cobiella has the story of one young woman who supports...
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and after the election in a bruising defeat, what's next for the republican party? we'll talk to one top outgoing gop senator. good sunday afternoon to you, you are watching msnbc, the place for politics. there are no signs right now of a break in the deadlocked talks to avert the so-called fiscal cliff, the devastating combinations of tax increase and spending cuts that kick in january 1st. both sides seem to dig in this morning on the sunday talk shows. >> the only thing standing in the way of that would be a refusal by republicans that the rates would have to go up on the wealthiest americans, and i don't really see them doing it. >> right now, i would say we're nowhere, period, we're nowhere. >> that somber assessment today from house speaker john boehner, as geithner, the point man, went on all five sunday talk shows, cnbc, washington correspondent aman javers joining me live now. did geithner offer anything new today? >> he really didn't. he thinks the republicans are bluffing here and they are not prepared to go all the way to the mat here on behalf of tax cu
and after the election in a bruising defeat, what's next for the republican party? we'll talk to one top outgoing gop senator. good sunday afternoon to you, you are watching msnbc, the place for politics. there are no signs right now of a break in the deadlocked talks to avert the so-called fiscal cliff, the devastating combinations of tax increase and spending cuts that kick in january 1st. both sides seem to dig in this morning on the sunday talk shows. >> the only thing standing in the...
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after the election the changes. only due in 1937 all of a sudden that money was gone from the economy that was one of the reasons why we are talking now. they had a depression within the depression. stock market went down. >> let's be specific here. before the break we said we could see another bubble. before we saw the housing bubble a few years ago. we know what that is. is the bubble the amount of money that will be taken out of the economy because of obama care? >> in 37 actions 38 thu had-- 3 37 they had a bubble. the year after the election it popped. we are doing our bubble right now. coming up a pop that would mean further unemployment. they had a downturn, this is the bubbly period. that's what the fed was doing when it put money into the economy prior to the election. they had a benefit for the election. interest rates are so low many people would say we are in a bubble. sounds strange because we don't feel so bubbly. outside of the u.s. they would say we are too easy sloshing with money or the bubble is i
after the election the changes. only due in 1937 all of a sudden that money was gone from the economy that was one of the reasons why we are talking now. they had a depression within the depression. stock market went down. >> let's be specific here. before the break we said we could see another bubble. before we saw the housing bubble a few years ago. we know what that is. is the bubble the amount of money that will be taken out of the economy because of obama care? >> in 37 actions...
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the presidential election may be fading into the rearview mirror, but it feels a lot like campaign season. >> i'm already missing the time that i spent on the campaign visiting towns like this and talking to folks like you. >> we love you. >> i love you back. >> the president speaking at a cam tpaign style event in philadelphia, pushing to avert the fiscal cliff. house republicans hours before the president's trip push back against mr. obama's plans in their own campaign style video. >> this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> this political fight is over policy, but if you weren't paying attention, you'd swear the presidential election was still going on. while the fiscal cliff battle plays out, campaign politics marches on. >> i want to help create a better united states. >> we're less than a month removed from the 2012 election, but former south dakota governor mike rounds is already looking ahead to 2014, announcing a bid for the sfath. >> i'll be out visiting in a lot of communities around south da
the presidential election may be fading into the rearview mirror, but it feels a lot like campaign season. >> i'm already missing the time that i spent on the campaign visiting towns like this and talking to folks like you. >> we love you. >> i love you back. >> the president speaking at a cam tpaign style event in philadelphia, pushing to avert the fiscal cliff. house republicans hours before the president's trip push back against mr. obama's plans in their own campaign...